Question: I own a couple of homes, but they’re both two family and not really complicated from an operational or investment perspective. I was considering getting into the multi-dwelling game (probably 6 family), and wanted to know a good place to start as far as understanding the expenses and risks.
I want to invest soon because I’m too liquid (I’m the diarrhea of investing), and I’m concerned that I’ll get killed by inflation. Right now, it’s wrapped up in a CD because I was expecting to pull the trigger on something this year, but the prices hadn’t dropped as much as I’d hoped so I’m stuck in the waiting phase. I guess it is better to wait and get screwed a little than rush and face the potential of getting royally screwed. Anyway, I’d appreciate some advice.
Answer: The only people who need to be worried are the ones who are illiquid when the sh%t hits the fan. It sounds like you know the game in your other investments, and if you have the liquidity for a multi-family, it means you’re probably in good shape. Every bad decision I’ve made as an investor has come when I’ve been in a hurry to put capital to work.
I’d rather give up a little to inflation than force a bad investment. When an investment is right, it’s scary but you know that you’ve got the right call. If you are overly concerned about inflation, add a little gold or oil to your portfolio as a hedge.
Now for some advice. Good value is good value — you have to analyze the building cost soley on its expenses vs it’s income — and not it’s intrinsic value — that’s a separate calculation — and if you’re paying more than 8x the annual rent roll you have to look at the bottom lines even more carefully
Of course, here in NYC right now, getting anywhere near 8x (interesting rule of thumb there) seems to be impossible. Especially if you’re considering that 8x after expenses, most of the places I’ve seen haven’t come close.
Most sellers ask for 10x plus in my experience — most banks won’t give a valuation larger than 8x — there is your profit margin in a nutshell — if there is no high upside and the price is 10x you gotta walk — if you are just going to be staying even — going higher than 8.5x is suicide in this market unless the rent roll is exceptional against the expenses.
Also, make sure you get realistic numbers on expenses. When I bought apartments I got lied to more than the guys who rent hotel rooms out by the hour.